Tatami Mats Required? What Should I have Under My Futon?
Do I need to buy tatami mats as well? What should the surface be under my futon? Is carpet okay? Of the topics that we get asked about the most, questions about the surface under your shikibuton (futon) are extremely common. For this reason we've created this blog post to answer these in more detail.Tatami Mats
Of course here in Japan our futon are typically placed directly on tatami, but this is not absolutely necessary. Although they're much better than carpet over cement or a wooden floor, tatami are still quite firm and don't add a lot of extra cushioning value. For this reason many people here in Japan may use a roughly 5 cm (2 inch) trifold cloth covered foam pad underneath their shikibuton. In fact, if you visit Japan and stay in a Ryokan (traditional guest house or hotel), you will definitely get the very common futon/trifold pad combination to sleep on. (However, their shikibuton likely won’t be as thick as what you will receive when you order from our website.) Cushioning value aside, tatami mats also do help to absorb moisture a bit and keep your futon dry. (We’ve included some additional information on tatami below)Tatami Beds or Platform Beds
One advantage of platform and tatami beds is they help keep your futon away from potential moisture problems simply by getting your futon up off of the floor, which can be a plus. That said, both tatami beds (wooden bed frames with tatami as the top surface) and platform beds (which typically have flat wooden top surfaces) are definitely quite firm. You may need to use a trifold pad under your futon when using these options as well. We have to say that both tatami beds and platform beds look great with our traditional futon. Another distinct advantage as they may be easier to get in and out of. Tatami beds are often preferred by senior citizens here in Japan for that reason. (Of course, here in Japan 80 year olds often still have an impressive spring in their step. ;) ) Of course the disadvantage of these beds is . . . well, they're beds. You can't just fold up up and store them away, like you can when you have just futon, then use that space for other activities other than sleeping.Using a Trifold Pad or Not
Another key important factor regarding the surface below your shikibuton is you. Your size/weight, sleeping habits and the type of sleep you need or prefer. If you're looking for quite a firm sleeping surface (due to back pain issues, for example) then your shikibuton on a blanket directly on carpet will probably be good. However, if after a few weeks you feel you need a little extra cushioning, we would recommend ordering a trifold pad from Amazon (or similar vendor). As our sleeping habits in general all differ, we would suggest starting at first, for a week or two, with the shikibuton only, then add any additional cushioning beneath as you feel necessary.Is your Futon Placed Directly on Carpet Okay?
Whether your futon works well or not on carpet depends on a couple of conditions. First, is the carpet covering a cement floor? Carpet on cement can be quite unforgiving. How thick is the carpet and carpet padding beneath it? How old is the carpet? Also,if the carpet pad underneath is worn, it may not be a very good moisture barrier either and your carpet may be pulling moisture from the cement. (This is often the case when you smell that musty carpet smell in basements.) Eventually your futon will actually absorb that moisture from the carpet. We would recommend some sort of pad underneath if only just a folded blanket that you can throw into the wash with your futon covers while you're hanging your futon out in the sun to get air and dry. If your carpet is installed over a wooden floor, moisture may not be an issue at all.Futon Directly on Hardwood or Laminate Flooring is Not Recommended
Important: One additional issue with flooring, as we've gotten more feedback from western customers over the years, is the potential of mold on the bottom of futon that have been placed on hard-wood or "Pergo" style laminate flooring. In fact, it has become more clear over time that when a customer discovers mold (actually quite a rare occurrence), it almost always includes one or both of two factors: 1) Hardwood flooring or laminate flooring. (This would include tile or cement as well.) This was not that apparent to us at first because here in Japan no one would actually place their futon directly on a hardwood or laminate floor so it was something we didn't expect at all. However, as the years of shipping abroad grew we discovered that placing your futon directly on this type of flooring is sure to introduce moisture into the futon. The other factor that tends to consistently run throughout mold complaints is the complete unawareness that futon need to be hung regularly to shed moisture. (There is so much information out there online regarding this that it is not common at all.)
We would recommend that if you're placing your futon on a hardwood or a laminate flooring, that you use some sort of natural fiber absorbent mat set such as a Goza or Igusa mat (These are essentially the outer material of a tatami mat) or throw-rug underneath. We would also recommend that you frequently (even daily if possible) lift your shikibuton up off of the floor and drape it over a chair so air can flow around it and allow it to breathe and shed moisture.






I guess the strength of the smell depends on the conditions of the room. Cheers!
You definitely do not have to hang your shikibuton out every day. Please check out our video on futon care. You will likely find this post on our website's blog about tatami helpful as well.
This is definitely the case that some laminate flooring is not installed with a proper moisture barrier, however, this issue with moisture occurs with all types of floors like hardwood, tile, vinyl, etc. with a solid surface. We have found that a simple solution of a natural fiber rug or mat (such as a jute rug or goza mat) helps to resolve this.
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Yes, shikibuton can definitely be used for mattress toppers. We recommend it be a fairly firm mattress, however. If a weak, sagging mattress it might be quite soft and won't fix a sagging mattress if this is a problem.
Shikibuton placed directly on carpeted floor or tatami mat are fairly firm and can be softened by using a trifold pad or similar beneath if needed.
Thanks for any insight you can provide me with!
Have you had any people use these for camping or with cots. Not sure if a cot will change the comfort of the futon, compared to being used on a flat surface.
Thank you,
Ruben Benavides
Thank you for your interest.
It could possibly be done, however, there can be a lot of moisture involved with camping, with morning dew, rain, etc. This is not good for a futon. If you felt confident you could keep the futon dry, then it might work out for you. If used for this, we strongly recommend you hanging in the sun after so that it can completely shed moisture through and through before storage.
I hope this is helpful.
I very much like your shikifuton, though live in an apartment and have no way to air out the shikifuton in the air or sun. Is there another way to keep it fresh and dry? Also my previous bed developed mold between the bottom of the cushion and the platform base it rested on. So, moisture and mold is a concern. I want to develop a Japanese sleeping system, not having to worry about potential mold.
Best regards,
Audrey
Thank you for your interest and for taking the time to contact us.
It is not uncommon for our customers to live in locations or circumstances where they cannot hang their futon outside in the sun. The next best alternative is to hang it inside in the sunniest area in your place. The key thing here is to get it up off the floor (or surface it is on) and hang it so that air can flow around it and it can shed moisture. If you've experienced mold in the past it is because there was moisture. Mold typically occurs from neglect in not hanging a futon regularly. If you're concerned, you can actually order moisture sensitive pads on Amazon Japan (and maybe Amazon USA) that change color when moisture is present. You can also buy futon dryers as well. That said, frequent hanging -- at least once a week -- should solve this problem.
We hope this is helpful.
Thank you once again for your past purchase.
That new style rug will definitely work fine. It might be helpful to vacuum it often. That pine shelf is a good idea too.